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We’re going to IPv6 the Irish Internet!

November 5th, 2007|

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We’re going to IPv6 the Irish Internet!

Ok not all of it, but the bit that we currently run. But we want to get as many
websites on our IPv6 platform before the end of 2008. This announcement/invitation is to all of our customers and potential customers.
Our plan:
1) To get 90% of our customer base onto IPv6 before the end of 2008.
2) We want to increase awareness of IPv6 in Ireland by advocating it and making every
single website we host for our customers available on the IPv6 Internet.
3) We want to take the lead in Ireland for IPv6 usage and set new standards for the
entire country and possibly the world.
So how are we going to do it? Good question and it’s a simple one. We’re going to start with the easier customers and then work our way upto the harder customers. So who, out of our customer base, is going to be easy to migrate?
The short answer, anyone that has their own dedicated or colocated server. Or to be more exact anyone running Apache 2.x on Linux. However we’re not going to shy away from IIS 6 (despite it’s rubbish support of IPv6). So there you have it, anyone with their own machine that runs linux or windows and has IIS 6+ or Apache 2.x or better can avail of this invitation.
Why?
1) Ok this is the difficult part. There are a lot of reasons, however it’s going to come down to money eventually. All of our customers and indeed the global Internet community are used to getting IP addresses for free. What if, in 2010 you had to pay 100 euro a month for 1 IPv4 IP address?
Why the heck would I pay for 1 IP address?? Well your broadband line at home has 1 IP address, your SSL enabled website has 1 IP address and your Office has a /29 range from your ISP. That’s 10 IP addresses total. Wow 1000 Euro per month. Now throw in your dedicated server into that bill. We give you 20 IP addresses for it and we have to charge 100 euro an IP address. That’s another 2000 Euro. So we’re upto 3000 Euro a month and all You get is a few IP addresses. _This_ could infact be the case in 2010 or 2011 if we don’t hurry up and get dual-stacked and make IPv6 a reality.
2) There are many technical reasons for switching to IPv6 as well. The main ones that we’re considering are very real world reasons. Why would an ISP in todays IPv4 Internet bother with IPv6? Why would they upgrade their kit, get a /32 from RIPE or ARIN or which ever RIR region they are in and go to the bother of learning how to deploy this seemingly cumbersome IP number scheme when there is no IPv6 enabled content on the Internet that their customer base (their bread and butter) can see/interact with.
People are not seeing the depletion of the IPv4 pool as a problem. It’s been said for the last 3-4 years “In 4 years time we’re going to run out and the Internet will die.” While this isn’t what’ll happen, the problem is that we don’t really know what will happen. Some people are saying there’ll be an “IP aftermarket” similar to the “Domain aftermarket” where you can buy and sell IP resources for large sums of Money. This could potentially create a market where my exotic pricing scheme (outlined above) could exist.
To summarise, Blacknight as Ireland’s fastest growing HSP (Hosting Service Provider) are going to lead the Irish Internet into the future by enabling 30k Irish websites to be reached over IPv6 by the end of 2008. Whether this is achievable or not is largely going to be down to our customers. If you have any interest in what we’ve said above please contact us via e-mail ipv6-wg@blacknight.ie . We want to enable all our customers to use IPv6, it won’t be easy for everyone. Shoving your head into the sand waiting for this to all blow over isn’t going to work either. One way or another, IPv6 is going to come into play. Live life on the edge, with us, deploy it with us ASAP.

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About the Author: Paul Kelly
I'm the CTO and Co-Founder of Blacknight. I've got a deep rooted interest in hosting and technology, especially what's on the cutting edge. From day to day I dream up new products, ways to reinvent products and services.
12 Comments
  1. Stephen November 5, 2007 at 20:00

    A noble cause indeed.
    Moderators note: Please refrain from pimping your own wares.

  2. Stephen November 6, 2007 at 10:38

    I was correcting a factual inaccuracy in your post, not pimping any wares.

  3. Michele Neylon November 6, 2007 at 13:08

    Stephen
    The statistics seem to tell a different story:
    http://mneylon.com/images/blacknight-07.jpg

  4. stephen November 6, 2007 at 21:00

    I guess it depends on what stats you make up but those numbers are not upheld by any other metric, including jmcc’s work. ( or webhosting.info )

  5. Jeroen Massar November 6, 2007 at 21:56

    Way to go Blacknight! Great initiative.
    Actually easier also is to enable it for virtual-hosted sites. Don’t forget to check that the users don’t have any scripts that are trying to understand IPv6 (a quick grep for REMOTE_ADDR in the PHP scripts etc might allow you to find that out).
    Also note that you might want to check if you userbase is actually ready for IPv6 and is not going to cause any problems.
    As such do run the IPv6 Test:
    http://www.braintrust.co.nz/ipv6wwwtest/
    otherwise you might loose a non-0% of your customers as they can’t reach the site anymore when it is enabled with AAAA’s. Better be safe than sorry 🙂

  6. Stephen November 9, 2007 at 15:00

    So what does this show?
    http://www.stephenmccarron.com/images/Picture4.png
    Or, for that matter any other graph I make up with that site 🙂
    Ignoreing of course that the graph shows ‘rrelative’ growth not actual growth – which is a big thing to ignore 🙂

  7. Stephen (no, not that one) November 9, 2007 at 18:12

    So what happens with those of us on cheapo shared hosting plans? 🙂
    God this brings me back, my final year project in college was an IPv6 migration!

  8. Michele Neylon November 10, 2007 at 17:16

    Stephen – we have more control over the clients on the shared hosting plans. In some ways this makes things easier, but it also brings its own set of issues, so the most I can say at the moment is “watch this space”
    Michele

  9. Derek Morr November 13, 2007 at 18:39

    Sadly, this blog doesn’t seem to be IPv6-enabled:
    $ host -t AAAA blog.blacknight.ie
    blog.blacknight.ie has no AAAA record
    Still, it’s very ambitious. Best of luck to you!

  10. Paul Kelly November 13, 2007 at 21:47

    Hi Derek,
    Indeed. It has now though :-), it was one of the URLs I forgot to add an AAAA record for it.
    Paul

  11. Derek Morr December 7, 2007 at 16:40

    I can’t connect to blog.blacknight.ie over port 80 via IPv6. My client keeps sending SYNs, but I never receive an ACK or a RST. Is there a firewall somewhere blocking port 80 on v6?
    I’d be very interested in hearing more about your plans to convert your users to IPv6. I’ve been advocating v6 within my organization but am seeing little interest.

  12. Michele Neylon December 13, 2007 at 08:18

    Derek
    that’s partially my fault. There are AAAA records for blog.blacknight.ie but not for blog.blacknight.com and there won’t be for a few more weeks for technical reasons
    Michele

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